Did you know that the team that last played only had 3 players that were not part of an immigrant family?
Shaw, Stones and Pickford.
Immigrants contribute far more to the economy than they take out. Fact which I can prove from loads of reports.
My brother, sister and I not born in GB are lucky, We pay more in income tax and NI than others actually earn. Speak to me and you will think I am an old white boy with white hair Eton/Cambridge/Oxford educated.
See me and I am dark skinned, wide, shaven headed with earrings and tattoos.
We are in 2021 and I cry.
My wife is white and we put up with this **** in the 1980's, my parents were spat on in the 70's. When will this end?
Sorry I need to get this off my chest.
Too much virtue signalling and climbing on soap boxes coming from the T.V. screen.Dont trust the politicians or the Media.Teach your kids the right thing.
i dunno - i just wonder what happened to my culture - they don't esxist anymore do they - that's why I came to Leeds, I thought there were still a few left, I miss 'em, y'all be turning in to fkking cybermen next (ooh!).
How can a higher ratio of black and Asian actors on TV be construed as antagonising and promoting racism? Do these actors spew racist comments?
I didn’t know there was a higher ratio. I honestly don’t count.
Racism is endemic in this country. It’s not as bad as say 30 years ago, but IMO, we will never see the end of it. There are far too many people out there who cannot or will not accept that where you come from or what colour you are does not change your basic human rights.
There are good and bad in all creeds and races. Ignorance, unfortunately, cannot be irradiated in one fell swoop. Education and calling out the ignorant and racist is the only way. It’s only in relative modern times that doing so garners support and agreement.
I also think in broad terms social media platforms have set us back somewhat.
What does it matter what colour the asda, the morrisons, the eastenders, the corrie families are ?
What does it matter what colour lucas, yeboah, kalvin, rafinha are??
They are decent people same as everyone else and deserve to be treated as so.
Again, its the worst excuse in the world and it doesn't make it alright.
None. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiqLNL6KYM8
Who's harder than me here?
Andyl
Spot on
Free speech?
Massive can of worms.
People who use racist abuse quote this, people who criticise governments also use this.
For me free speech cannot be used for everything. Being critical is vastly different to being racist. Rashford’s penalty deserves criticism but not because he’s not white.
Free speech is a democratic right. Racism and similar abuse is not right in any society.
Oh shurrup and watch Our Bernard yer soft cnt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKnwn9SEkdA (call yerself Leeds - try bein' the fkkin tranny). I am doin' a double act with Bernard in the afterlife - imagine how that's gunna go. Bernard and the Flyin' Fridge from Blackpool.
Sorry, BB, that you and your family are taking this abuse. It is not right in a decent society, which I believe this country is in the main. Just look at the numbers who are trying to get in to live and improve there lives, legally and illegally. But as has been stated, we are all immigrants since Roman times. My name is Anglo-Saxon and I am proud to be British. We have lead and improved the world in so many ways. But for every abuser, there are five hundred who are not. You can only take the positives.
The social media thing is something new and alarming, but it is free speech! In true free speech, someone will always be offended. To censor social media is like a snowball, it gets bigger.
To abuse the three footballers is regrettable, but I find it understandable. I can go back to before Revie's days, when players were poorly paid and took the bus to ER on matchdays with the fans. Now, as millionaires, they turn up in top brand cars and I truly believe, they don't, in the main, give two hoots for us.
When the three came up to take the penalties on Sunday, they cannot have understood how much it meant to millions of England fans, as they are so detached from the real world. To so many fans, football is the most important thing in their lives. And lives were shattered! The social media is the perfect platform for the devastated to hit back.
I have very little respect for todays footballers, they use the social media as if it's their own. It's good Bro' this and good Bro' that, but when they perform badly and get abuse, they just can't take it. If they want a quiet life they should turn off the s m and live a normal life, like me.
But I fear the genie cannot be put back in the bottle!
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As has been said above, its the household attitudes these dregs grow up with and are socialised by.
A lack of intelligence is also a factor.
It's not banter it's not tongue in cheek it's wrong full stop.
And as above. Social media also to blame for allowing anonymous trolls space to vent their bile.
Identify these people, prosecute them and ostracise them till they educate themselves.
It's the worst excuse in the world and it doesn't make it alright.
c/o The Specials
Well said BB. I've never understood why some feel the need to be racist. It should have ended years ago. We shouldn't even be talking about this in 2021. Its our differences that make us stronger.
You've spelt immigration wrong btw.
And least we forget James McClean (a white man) who consistently gets online hate messages / death threats to him and his wife and kids, and yet he has to "accept" this torrent of abuse and little is done about it.
I remember the stories my parents told me when they arrived from Ireland in the 50's. Treated like s***. Unable even to find anywhere to live for a while and subjected to "thick paddy & mick" jokes continuously. It was therefore no surprise that they, like a number of Irish immigrants. ended up in the same communities as those arriving from the Caribbean and herded into various corners of the capital cities. These days, the racist cowards hide behind anonymity and are enabled by the various social media outlets who seem to value cash over moral obligation.
Wouldn’t worry me in the slightest if these platforms were shut down.
All down to cash generated trumping moral standards
And if the truth be told the media and commentators are under playing the "tiny minority" that are involved in this disgusting behavior if you ask me.
I saw videos last night grown men well into their 40's throwing punches, bottles, kicking others on the ground, so trying to blame all this on the "youngsters" who use Instagram isn't telling the full story.
I think unfortunately we are coming to a point with social media that unless someone can be charged with racial abuse then these platforms should be taken down and removed completely.
If social media platforms aren't "policed" then no matter what age an account holder is he/she MUST BE HELD TO ACCOUNT because otherwise whats the difference in someone posting this type of sh*te online and someone posting a hate message in the post and having it sent to somebody's home???
Andyl mate ye arent alone with having true scum in your Country.
EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS THESE IDIOTS
100% agree it's how a child is raised and the values passed down from the parents/guardians that shapes the next generation. My kids are now early twenties with the youngest being 16 and i dread to think what their kids (if blessed to have them) what will the world look like for them (my grandkids).
Its a sad sad world
There are some true scum in this country.
The worst being the racist online trolls.
Unfortunately racism is not going away soon. As long as parents perpetuate hate and devision it will not change. Kids aren’t born racist. It’s their upbringing that makes them so.
Social media has some great benefits. However they are a perfect platform for all the scumbags country and world wide. I despair of the human race sometimes, because for all the good people there is a sizeable minority that are not.
I sincerely hope that the English fans will show respect for the Italian national anthem. And i hope England win