January 2022 Transfer Thread

Excellent.

A cunning plan hatched by the Bucket God

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Yeah just seen that the Van De Beek loan has no option to buy so we would, in effect, have only got him fit and up to speed for the next Mancscum manager.... so probably a wise move on our behalf.

However, if he'd have done well for us, loved the club and our fans, he'd have surely wanted to stay for next season knowing he was going to be virtually guaranteed a starting place.... player power would have forced him out!?

I really rate Van De Beek and think he'd be a perfect upgrade on Klich....

Tough one though and maybe Bielsa does know more than me on this particular point alone. ...

Now that i can understand why we didn't pursue mouseman, but still dosen't explain / answer where was plan B "if" midfielder "A" didn't sign for whatever reason??

Are the board gambling that there are 3 teams worse than us this season and they effectively are chancing their arm to topup the coffers by minimal spend and offset some of the losses the Club endured during covid last year?

But even that stalling tactic, longterm, will mean we will have to cough up more in the summer to buy 6 players in July rather than space them out 2 in Jan & 4 in July!!!!!!

If a manager dosent want new players then what board buys?

some do yes but id say if Radz/Orta bought a player and landed him into TA without Marcelo knowing of an arrival id say he would jack and could you you really blame him, he is either in charge or he's not.

Van debeak was loan only no option to buy and a hefty fee to borrow just to get him fit for manua to sell on no thanks

We still won't go down but just hope Bamford comes back firing and give Geldhart a fkn chance before Roberts!!

A creative midfielder was a priority purely to make chances as Raphinha isn't making as many and Harrison and James are very inconsistent....

I actually think Newcastle have made good signings who know the division and will keep them up.... these players will be very good squad players and competition when they sign the superstars in the summer....

Watford and Norwich will definitely go down. Norwich have got a couple of wins but that won't keep going and Watfordscum are just awful and I don't recognise any of their players.... they'll both be happy picking up the unbelievable parachute payments for fkn failure and give them an unfair headstart on the other Championship clubs next season.

Bumley will also go down. Weghorst is a good signing but won't get enough chances created for him....

I've always said Wood will thrive and score goals at a bigger club and think he'll prove this at Newcastle when they get some bigger signings.... St Maximum is already going to set him up loads of chances this season and I reckon he will get 10 goals by the end of the season and wish we'd have got him.

Thats something that will keep cropping up now until we are safe Andyl, and the pundits will say we didnt help ourselves by not signing anyone in January eventhough we had long injury list.

The only team i think almost certainly going down will be Norwich, and I think watford are doomed too. so thats 2 out of three spots filled so whose the third team?

Personally i have a feeling Burnley will survive

Newcastle "if" they get a bounce from the new signings could close the gap to us very quickly despite having everton, villa & west ham in their next three games.

Everton likewise i think will get a bounce from lumpturd going there and will get improved performances from the players which in turn will see them pick up points against newcastle, leeds, southampton

then there is us in 15th spot a point behind brentford but with 2 games in hand and a further point behind Palace on 24 points but we have a game in hand on them also.

Maybe im old school but id prefer to have the points in the bag rather than the games in hand.

I dont feel the butterflies so im not really panicy, but we certainly have more work to do, and PL safety is far from guaranteed

Closed. Done.

Tumbleweed (for better or worse we shall see).

We NEED a creative midfielder as a PRIORITY to create chances for Roberts to miss.... or not be in the correct position to attempt a finish in the first place.

A forward is also a priority to COVER/COMPETE with Bamford.... it's not fkn rocket science and the goal stats in the for and against column prove this.

For a team of our ambition you don't have just ONE striker!!

I have kept banging on that injury, suspension and loss of form will affect our standing.... I'm not saying how fkn intelligent I am with a great knowledge of football but it's so fkn obvious!!

With a quality creative midfielder and half decent striker to go alongside our wingers we'll score more goals than we'll concede and therefore have more points for a mid table finish to again grow again next season and push for Europe gradually....

Assuming nothing happens in the next 7 hours and we don't sign anyone, maybe just maybe Bielsa may learn that a small squad in other Countries may work, like he is used to, but when it comes to the English PL and the competitive nature in this league that concept dosen't really work.

OK you can argue he has had one season in the PL and we finish 9th so why is this year so different? My theory on that is the fans are back, pundits, sports journalists, TV programmes, all the pressures are all back and its all systems go (the first "real" PL in my view) that this current Leeds team are experiencing what its like playing at the very highest level in England.

So maybe just maybe going forward he might change his view on playing numbers he thinks he may need for a competitive season and he may decide to give it another whirl next year?

who knows? but id say he has rarely if ever have to endure playing such quality opposition week in week out without any real meaningful break / rest for his key players.

And one thing i'd say he is definitely glad of, that being we didn't qualify for Europe last year because those extra games, extra mileage in the legs would have us playing more games with even youngsters in our starting xi.

But for me these transfer windows are a bloody joke and need breaking, it just dosent / work help any Club or Manager that may be encountering unusual amounts of player injuries in any season or part of.

Shut the windows PERMANENTLY

I think this is a very sexist post Guy and the mods need to sort this filth out in this day and age of equality ....

I'd like to see her handle a huge tackle and then the balls whilst sucking the opposition in whilst playing with her 2 up front....

Danish, just take a look at the official lufc site.😂

The new signing (she) is quite good looking!

I hate the transfer window. I hate the way the media pitch fans against the club, fans against the manager, and invent stories of breakdowns between club and players. Even dipping into the cesspit of transfer speculation feel sordid.

Sky have lifted this story from Carl Markham at The Independent - a Liverpool/Everton reporter with a pretty mediocre hit rate on transfer gossip. I don't buy it. Somerville isn't a first squad player, he's not one of MB's magic 18. If he left, he would be replaced with a new u23 signing and Miller or McKinstry would become next taxi on the subs bench. Though, wait a minute, that's already happened! This is definitely being pedalled by an agent.

I can spot a fake transfer story from forty feet and Minamino reeks of agent spin. The last thing we need is another left winger. It'll never happen. It's solid gold BS.

We are looking for an attacking midfielder and nobody else, apart from maybe some u23 reinforcements.

Yes, Minamino linked to us, exactly the kind of player we often go for → small & lightweight.

We've put in an initial bid for Takuma Minamino from Liverpool according to SKY - competing with Monaco - but initial bids have been rejected.

Our u23s are decimated they at least will be relegated end of season

If that's the case and i respect your view soop i think the Club are playing a very dodgy game with MB. One could class Marcelo as "my way or no way" type of guy, if ye recall he left Lazio after 2 days, gone from Lille in 6 months (during the summer period and all May-November), all stemming back to the Club not living up to his demands or didn't do what they said they would do when he signed a contract.

I've read alot about Marcelo and ok paper never refused ink and stories are "dramatized" so that more books are sold, but if there is a rift i hope its resolved and not forgotten about and left for things to fester away in the background and hoping the problems go away (heads in the sand type of approach), we all know where that leads to.

If the Club are thinking beyond Bielsa and they would be stupid not to have at least some discussions about that day, I would have thought MB himself may / should be asked as to he thinks or could he suggest a replacement to takeover the next phase of the Clubs progression.

Diplomacy works and if people are asked their opinion on any topic at least that person feels valued and go away not feeling any ill feeling towards the Club. Just my opinion but MB wouldn't be a man that will roll over like a puppy dog id say he has a fiery temper like most South Americans highly strung

There are only 2 logical explanations for the club's stance on letting these players go out on loan against Bielsa's wish:

1) There's a rift with that group of U23's that were earmarked for first team by Angus Kinnear at the start of the season, so they are being allowed to progress elsewhere to keep the camp happy.

2) The club are thinking beyond Bielsa for next season and getting these young players prepped for a shot at the first team squad next season under new management.

Apologies if that's controversial.

Gone

Spoken very well, eh Bull😁

I get your point(s) Smurf, but...

Both Bamford and Rodrigo have both missed plenty of games because of injuries.

Even when fit MB hardly uses Rodrigo as a striker (he's hardly a prolific goalscorer).

Geldhardt is still very young and MB uses him very sparsely.

In fact MB prefers James up top and to replace the later, he obviously prefers the talented Roberts.

To me Greenwood doesn't look ready for the Premiership yet.

With Geldhardt you feel fairly confident he's gonna make it.

However I'm not even convinced Greenwood will make it at Premiership level.

The young Spanish you talk about has been here what 2-3 weeks and has played ± 15mins with the U-23's.

You're correct that we miss a playmaker in the Pablo mould to create openings and rather often the final ball isn't just good enough.

However in a fair number of games we've looked toothless up front / no cutting edge. WIthout Bamford there's really nobody who can hold up play and bring others into play.

In other games, like against Newcastle we often got in behind them but the chances still went missing.

Two reasons;

1) A lack of the correct final ball.

2) A lack of a striker sensing when to get into the right area (Bamford & Joffy seem to have that quality).

Josh Galloway on loan to FC United of Manchester

Like BB I can't see us make any signings now.

As per usual we leave things until very late on and either we have to pay far too much money or the deal collapses.

Smurf, you make some very good points.

But I'm stunned and really baffled fo find out we've got plenty of strikers and good ones at that ?

Yep, we've god a very good one in PB, but if I'm not mistaken he's already missed more games than he played this season.

We've also got a very talented young lad in Geldhardt and ... that's it.

Number of goals between them → 3!

Are we left a bit short upfront? You bet we are.

Bits on Twitter that Summerville is wanted by hamburg

I can sort of see their point. If you are 20/21 then you and your agent will want first team football to help increase your profile.

Even kids at Chelsea now are looking to leave on permanents instead of loans.

Summerville is not going to usurp Rafa, Harrison or James. Sending him out on loan for a year and a half whilst extending his contract may suit both sides.

If Drameh does well at Cardiff, then he will have shoved himself into out first team picture for next year.

Now we just need someone to workout how to keep Cresswell, Bate, Greenwood, Geldhart & Co happy.

Yeah saw that Soopa, not unexpected because lately he has not been involved with the first team squad or even the U-23's.

Perhaps we should consider offering Roberts as part of the deal😏

I certainly hope you guys are correct about James.

I'll give you that he puts in a lot of effort & running, his pace is/should also be an asset.

But any sort of end result from him is so often missing, even at Manure with (arguably) better players around him, how many assists did he provide? Single digits?

Furthermore I'm not convincede we've got a proven track record in getting the right players at inflated (high) transfer fees & ditto wages over the line.

I for one can certainly can't judge if that young American would be the end all.

The story of they have to be better than what we've already got?

I' don't buy that one for a second, let me point you towards a certain bloke called Roberts. → Further proof → Rodrigo at 27+M GBP, James at 25+M GBP.

The performance at West Ham was very good, yesterday the performance was ok but the end result was awful and could & should have been avoided.

Things need to be looked at in and at a certain perspective/balance.

Most people will certainly aknowledge that we've got some very talented youngsters coming along.

But in the matchday programm Kinnear exaggerates that we've got young world class players coming through (not sure he's doing them any favours).

To me that's just some kind of deflection or justification.

I would rather we spent big on just one player who we really want and where there is a clear gap in the first team, than spend the same amount on multiple players like Swift, Nandez or O'Brien who are no better than what we already have and would just clog up squad spaces which stop our u23s progressing. Aaranson looks as if he is in the Pablo Hernandez mould and that's the type of player who would make a difference, and who we miss.

I also reckon we got James at a bargain price, and we will benefit long term from his signing. I agree that now might be the best time to cash in on Rodrigo, especially as Gelhardt looks to be ahead of schedule in terms of development, and we can use his wages to give Raphinha a better contract.

I would cut our losses and sell Rodrigo for whatever sum we can get for him in order to pay Salzburg over-price for Brenden Aaronson. We so badly need a proper 10’er, and Aaronson definitely looks to be a good player in that position - for now as well as for the future.

I’d also give away Tyler Roberts to any Championship club willing to take him off our wage bill. Seriously.

Orta pictured at Munich Airport by a Leeds fan and said he was there for business.... Salzburg is only a short trip away so presume Aaronson is a serious target 👏👍😉⚽

I'm not saying to definitely buy him and said this before BUT.... Mitrovic is an UNBELIEVABLE goalscorer!

He has a well over goal ratio of 1 in every 2 games for both Serbia and Fulham and proven over EVERY season for years....

OK, he only scores loads in the Championship for Fulham but that's because when they reach the Prem every other season, they languish down the bottom and don't create many chances.... think how many chances he'd get for us!?

Yes, we all hate him and he's one of those players that get under the opposition skin. However, we grew to love Diouf after a while and Mitrovic is the kind of player that we love to hate but would love his passion in our team....

If we could get him for circa 20m as competition / back up / partner for Hattrick I think he'd score goals for us.

Ready for all to say he'd unsettle the changing room and wouldn't suit our style of play with my tin hat firmly on again.... 🖕🥊🖕🥊🖕🥊🖕🥊

Lots of reports VO is after Red Bull Salzburg No.10/No.8 Brenden Aaronson with our first bid of £15 million being rejected last night.

Just hope this is not another Che Adam/Gallagher saga where we keep chasing but get nowhere.

I know nothing about the guy, however, from what I have read, he sounds more than decent.

The Austrian league is not that strong. Salzburg walk it each year. This year they are something like 14 odd points ahead of their nearest rivals but they are also in the last 16 of the Champions League but Bayern await them there, so not much hope of them progressing.

Well we have given 8 of our youngsters their PL debut since the start of the season so far and that type of experience you cant buy. With Burnley/Watford game now off im beginning to wonder will the 22nd of May be the last game of the season??.

Burnley have the least played games but according to Dyche they only had 10 "recognized" first team players yesterday, meaning they probably had another 3 or 4 fringe players available throw in a few of their u23's and they could have fulfilled the fixture. However with them in real danger of going down and the financial loss that would certainly bring can you really blame them for requesting a cancellation and try to play their games with the full squad available.

The EFL must step in now and tell all clubs

a) dates for all re-arranged fixtures

b) change the parameters in which a game can be requested to be called off.

personally i cant understand how Burnley are 5 games behind City who have also played 6 more CL games thats 11 games more already in 5 months!!!!

although the 5 league games they are behind i read Burnley requested 2 games, their opposition requested 2 others and snow called off the 5th so we must look at the whole picture. But the EFL must do something and must develop a plan that's transparent to all Clubs, i mean do we want a football game to be decide on the boardroom table like Leinster in rugby union, which was really farcical, the french team had an outbreak of covid cases, the french government refused entry to France Leinster the ERU awarded the game (28-0) to the french side and last weekend the corresponding return game in Dublin last weekend saw Leinster win 89-7 (scoring 13 tries).

So when are Burnleys games to be re-fixed (thankfully they are gone from the FA Cup already)

Spurs (still in Europe & FA Cup)

Leicester (same Europe & FA Cup)

to play Villa Twice, however only league left

Everton (FA Cup)

Its going to be difficult and i can see SD lodge a complaint on player welfare grounds if they are going to be asked to play like 4 games in 9 days, because part of their defense will also be they only sought 2 refix's.!!

This.

Why buy in January if we can win games with the U23 players - signing now doesn't work very often, it's expensive and when all the injuries are back you have the cast of thousands all whining on the bench.

The injury situation has cost us some points no doubt, but the value and experience of the U23 group has been enhanced massively for the future.

By May the likes of Hjelde, Bate, Cresswell, Summerville etc will be much wiser and stronger than they were at the start of the season and that means the close season becomes very interesting! It may mean that just 2 signings will propel us forward - a RB to replace Ayling now Drameh has p!$$ed off and a box to box to replace Klich

My "acquaintance" , the football agent has finally just text me.

We may be in for some players but we will keep our powder dry until after Barcodes game.

Summer is likely for major signings unless we lose.

Bamford will be back for this game, albeit on bench

Firpo and Forshaw should be available but not risked as international break follows, so only bench for them at most unless med team deem them fully fit and not at risk.

After international break, Joffy, Roberts, Baby Shacks and Greenwood should be available.

Coops and KP should be back in training mid Feb latest.

So a win and no more injuries this weekend means no more signings!

MB trusts Hjelde, Bate, Summerville and others to cover in the short term and will not risk their development by bringing in short term singings.

Raskin rumour out there - £6M from Belgium (Midfielder)

The lads has potential, but honestly I don't think he's good enough and ready for the Premiership just yet. His marking & general positioning is lacking atm.

Perhaps he just wants more game time, it's not like he's gonna feature a lot when we start getting some players back.

Remains to be seen if he can learn more away from ER & MB's guidance.

Think he may well have burnt some bridges with MB.

Hope he does will for Cardiff, so we get a big fee for him!

ive read "according to Bielsa" that drameh has chosen to abandon the club despite asking him to stay and help given all our injuries but Drameh and his agent refused and forced the loan move through to Cardiff, and apparently drameh has almost completely deleted all of his history with Leeds and unfollowed almost everything to do with us other than a few teammates.

Apologies for going back to business

Drameh to Cardiff confirmed now.

Can you imagine the commentators

Koch sees Anal wide open

Wood only joining Barcodes for money. He is 30 now so 4 1/2 year deal at £60-£75k per week is great for him with a signing on fee of £3-£5million.

His agent will be pleased too.

At £25 million it is not a great deal for Barcodes. If they stay up, he will be replaced by someone better in the summer and eventually end up on loan to some Prem club fighting relegation.

But he could prove the difference for them staying up. Gayle and Wilson out for 8 weeks or so, so they then need a focal point up top and he gives them that presence.

His signing shows Barcodes cannot yet attract top, top players.

Can Burnley, Watford or Norwich?

You have to remember that Wood is playing in a crap side who don't create many chances....

I'd love Wood back at Leeds and is very similar to Hattrick. He would have been a great replacement for Hattrick whilst he was out and I think they could have played together.... I know it wouldn't have happened as we don't play that system though.

I know many thought he left us for money and that obviously was part of it. However, his ambition more than matched ours as he played in the Prem well before us and has ultimately proved himself right by continually scoring and getting a big move to a big club at his age.... albeit playing in the Championship next season!!

We'll get St Maximum instead for £50M when they're down.... think of him and Raphinha on either wing!!

We have 11 players out injured.

Relegation will be decided by who does best this transfer window.

Newcastle have the money but do they have the luck with injuries?

So it is just Watford Burnley and Norwich to worry about

Cannot see many of our players fit until Mid/End Feb and well into March.

Still I think we can get to 9th-11th this season.

Top 7 is settled but below them is fair game.

Drameh to Cardiff gathering momentum - duly edited

Whoever we get we need them now not on the 30th Jan.

No doubt we’ll buy another bloody winger.

We were never going to spend big on Diaz. Really want 2 midfielders and a decent leftback.