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The U21s 2022/23 Thread

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The new season started today away v Derby.

Final score Derby 2 - 5 Leeds U21

4 (FOUR) for Fernandez and a maiden strike for Sonny Perkins.

I look forward to games on LUTV (I hope) when matches don't clash with Premier league fixtures.

604 comments

604 Comments

Stevethemouse

Jun 07

Stevethemouse

Jun 07

Soopaleeds

Jun 07

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I didn't think he rocked the world for us, he certainly didn't at Brum either.

For where we are now he may yet be a rough diamond, but I fear his self image is higher than his capability and he needs that knocking off first.

guy.permentier

Jun 08

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Agree Soopa, do we get somekind of fee (by offering a new deal), even if he does not sign it? A bit surprised we let Charlie Allen go, had something about him (pace & could finish), perhaps because we had too many lightweight players in our squad?

Surely Gnonto and or Jimmy set to leave?

Daniel2

Jun 09

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If I owned a league1 club I would be signing Dani Van Den Heuvel, Charlie Allen, Lewis Bates, Morton Spencer. All 3 have the ability to play now in league1. Bates is extremely comfortable already at level, while Allen would settle after 10 to 15 games while Spencer has everything needed to be a solid DCM other then game time. Van den Heuvel is more the good enough.

TC10

Jun 06

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Sure I saw him play for our u21s v Luton at St Albans a couple of months ago and he was the best player on the pitch.... be great if he could get a chance next season like Kalvin and Archie.

Alternatively, we could pay 5/10m for players from abroad who are bang average and haven't got a clue about the Championship....

TC10

Jun 07

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Could have been Charlie Allen though.... 🙈

Soopaleeds

Jun 07

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A right Charlie either way

Soopaleeds

Jun 06

A truly rare occurrence.

A full International cap before a league debut..... Charlie Crew!

Smurf

Jun 04

Charlie Crew will be next. Maybe Gyabi.

TC10

Jun 04

How many academy players have come through our system into the first team over the years?

Everyone always says you only need one(?) from each year to make it worthwhile....

I'd love to know our figures as we're highly thought of as a club that brings through youngsters.

We all know Kalvin did but it's all very well bringing them right through our system only to be sold after a great first season!

This could happen to Archie for instance. Yes, we'll get a good fee but does a club like ours really need the money that badly when a local youngster brings real interest to the club?

Howson did well and Mowatt to a point. Byram has done well overall. Lennon and Milner had to be sold straight away. Jack Clarke was sold after one good season. Smith did well for us. Tom Lees to an extent and McPhail....

I've missed out loads and these are only off the top of my head, but who has given us great service after coming through the academy!?

If we went back 25 years has someone got any stats on who came through and for how long?

Is the Academy system worth it in the end!? Probably a hypothetical question as it's tradition but a club like ours shouldn't be selling on.... we should be nicking them from the smaller clubs!

I know we keep bringing youngsters in from Scotland /Ireland etc but how many go on to make it?

Geldhart and Greenwood were going to be the next big thing but haven't pushed on....

I know it's our dodgy owners' fault as they've just wanted a quick buck or to balance the fkn books!

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Soopaleeds

Jun 04

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Sadly our academy is relatively better than our club - it's well inside the top 20 in the country when our first team is second tier - the result will always be that our best products are cashed in - not just for the club's benefit but for the benefit of the young player.

It's definitely worth it though, not just for the cash but also to keep attracting the next great young players and keeping the reputation of the club high.

If we ever get back to being top 10 in the EPL then we'll keep these products for ourselves.

The secret is getting our income streams stable by growing ER, that'll give us the opportunity to grow organically inside FFP - be sustainable - and get to that better place. You might have noticed that's becoming my biggest complaint.....

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Daniel2

May 30

So I am hearing that the club will be allowing almost all the u21's to leave.

Before ask C.Crewe count s as a u18's so he stays.

Smurf

May 31

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Agreed, I would be inclined to keep Charlie Allen, Gyabi and definitely Luca Thomas but let the rest go.

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Soopaleeds

Jun 01

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Gyabi is a really interesting one - he looked very poor compared to our other midfield options at Leeds, but then at Plymouth played further up the field and looked much better.

Daniel2

Jun 07

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Gyabi was or is classed as a first team squad member. He is going to need another loan, somewhere he can get 38 games. Think he will one the bloom around 23 once he get 100 games under his belt.

Enoch's extra leg

May 29

Charlie Crew got called up to the senior Wales team

Daniel2

May 11

Someone at the club must explain why we had that terrible kit on instead of the white kit.

Also, would say that this was not our best game. Our boys did not play well or at least anywhere near their best.

Good lesson for them. Hopefully they will come out stronger from this.

TC10

May 10

Great support by us in the crowd as usual and 3 down and constant singing by our sizeable contingent.... can't hear citeh fans!

Soopaleeds

May 10

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Lets all play an oil state in their own back yard in an FA Cup final... 🤑

The lads worked very hard to stay in it for 45 mins. The average age was well below Man City's

TC10

May 10

3 down in 75th minute....

Citeh look far more comfortable on the ball and we can't defend set pieces.... at least even our academy teams shadow the 1st team style of play! 😜🙈🤣

TC10

May 10

Good luck for our boys in the u18 Cup final tonight v Citeh.... we're big underdogs apparently!

It's on FA Player, FA Cup YouTube, TikTok, Twitter and a couple of others.... 7pm ko

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Daniel2

May 10

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Well our boys have been poor in the league since making the cup final. Not poor in overall game play but 10 or so team wide lapses in concentration, per game resulting in loses. Let's hope they are fully focused for this one.

Soopaleeds

May 10

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I'll be watching - it's good for the future that we have these guys getting the exposure and the high level competition - if 1 or 2 become the next Kalvin Phillips then we win long term and the academy is funded for years.