The Summer 2024 Transfer Thread - Closed

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Harrison is not a TOP, TOP winger....albeit decent.

His workrate is unbelievable and he defends really well....he could definitely be turned into a very decent LB!

We could get Firpo wages off the books as he's not good enough for the Prem anyway and I'd replace him with Harrison!

Harrison's best position would be as a wing back but we know Farke won't change formation....

Farke's missus will probably be piissed off with him as he'll refuse any other sexual positions and just stick with the same old missionary formation....

Mrs Farke is probably very happy if he keeps going for 70 mins without a change though?

I don’t think any of them will go. We don’t need to sell and I doubt we will be offered silly money for any of our players. We have one of the tightest defences in the championship, there’s only two clubs who have conceded less goals than us. Selling our keeper would also be too disruptive. Wrong time of the year to bring in someone new.

The only player I see us signing is a number 10. We might offload Gelhardt as he allegedly wants to go, and some of the u21s out on loan. As Farke said, be a quiet transfer window.

Meslier to be replaced by a bench warmer at Liverpool is the bet

Looks like spurs bound but my spurs mates say not on the spurs radar

I'd consider playing Gray as the Number 10, but I'm not a big fan of taking ex players back on loan to help their development at their new club. There's more forward looking options out there #JamesMcAtee

I guess he's only an insurance policy. I don't see him playing unless three of the other midfielders are unavailable. At least he can play in a couple of positions and unlike other free transfers, wasn't asking for a premiership salary,

In general, the squad looks very healthy. We have six of the eleven highest valued players in the championship according to FootballTransferMarket.com - Meslier, Gnonto, Ampadu, Struijk, James and Piroe. And eight of the highest valued 25 with Aaronson and Solomon included.

After 11 games in, full marks to our recruitment team, and to Farko for persusading Aaronson to reintegrate - he's been absolutley top notch in recent matches. Its tricky picking a top three performers for the season so far, but I'd say Gnonto, Aaronson and Firpo wouldn't be far off the mark.

Excellent summary. I’d agree with all of that. We’ve plugged a lot of the gaps from last season and there’s more variety in the midfield than we had. If only be looking to add a good number 10 and then we will be well positioned to try and win this league. We’ve still got Crew and Harry Gray on the books and both will progress to first team players at some point in next12-18 months. Farkes done really well to knit this unit together.

Please no, he’s as old as the hills. He makes Joe Biden look young. We’re far better seeing what Charlie Crew can do in the meantime whilst waiting for Wober to get fit in six weeks time which is the earliest it would take unfit old man Kouyate to get up to scratch, then bring Gyabi back at Christmas from his excellent spell at Plymouth. Farke has as good as said he hates signing players in October. Let it be so.

Agreed, think he's well past his best and it would hold back Crew.

But do hope we're looking to sign some quality players in January.

I’d rather see us back in for Hamer or a number ten in January instead of flapping about adding a quick fix like Kouyate that no one else wanted to sign.

My take on Bogle is that I hope he gets better as his touch is extremely heavy at moment causing him to have go backwards as by the time he gets it under control the other are up on him.

I'm beginning to wonder if Blunts have had our pants down with Bogle, nothing seen so far that gives me any level of confidence!.

Hard to say at this stage, players need time to bed in, and for the coaches to get the best out of them. He didn’t look good today but he’s over 170 games behind him and 4 England u20 caps. Some players take longer to come good and some never do. I always give newbies the benefit of the doubt for at least their first dozen or so games.

To be fair, I think it was an excellent and very thought provoking interview - it was more about bigging up Aaronson than Buendia - he doesn't even admit to putting a bid in for Buendia. Here's what he actually did say:

“A really strong replacement at the right side of centre-half, strong replacement at right-back. We accept we've lost a lot of potential in Archie [Gray], but, for this coming season, Jayden [Bogle] should be able to perform at or above Archie’s level quite comfortably.

“Two good solutions, creative solutions, at wing with one an emerging player with Largie [Ramazani] and one in Manor [Solomon], who's really proven at a Champions League level and has the ability to really dominate this league. And the one missing piece of the jigsaw, which Daniel was very fair to identify, was, ideally, to give the window an A+ grade, we'd have secured a number 10.

“Those number 10s are, as Daniel did point out in his interview, really hard to find. If you look at great number 10s in the Championship across the last few seasons, you've probably got Emi Buendia at Norwich [City] and Pablo Hernandez, but there's not many others. It's a very hard position to recruit.

“It's a very hard position where you get goals and assists and a physical presence and the players we looked at weren't available to us, or we didn't think were at the standard. My interpretation of Daniel’s statement, from a club perspective, is, as a club, we couldn't identify an attainable number 10 who was going to make us stronger than we are now.

“We have some very talented creative players. Willy can play at number 10 and I know Brenden is struggling from a fan perspective because of his decision to go on loan, but if we signed Brenden Aaronson this summer, even at half the price we actually signed him for in the Premier League, everybody would think that was a very, very credible replacement at number 10 at Championship level.”

On the subject of Buendia, Kinnear said the Argentine, a former colleague of Farke’s at Carrow Road, was someone the club enquired about this summer. While he was unavailable in the clearest terms possible from Villa Park, Gustavo Hamer was a player Leeds did bid for.

Kinnear said there had been some noises from South Yorkshire to suggest the playmaker may be available, but a bid was swiftly turned down by the Blades.

“I can talk specifically about two examples, two players we thought would fit the bill, would be significantly better than who we have currently, bear in mind we're looking at replacing a £40m player (Georginio Rutter), which is obviously going to be challenging at Championship level,” said Kinnear. “Buendia was on our list and, very clearly from Aston Villa, wasn't going to be released and the player didn't want to come back down to Championship level.

“He felt he served his time at Championship level and then Gustavo Hamer, who we've had an interest in before he went to Sheffield United, was another player who we felt would have significantly improved the team. Now, the way that transfer worked is we all assumed there was no chance Sheffield United would sell their star player to a promotion rival, based on the prize and the size of of what promotion’s worth.

“So if they sell to Leeds United and we go up by one point and they don't, they've cost themselves over £100m in TV revenue. However, we were given some light, and this is where the market works, through agents, through contacts, they might be open to an offer.

“Sheffield United are a difficult club to deal with at the moment because they're in an ownership transition. So there's no friendly face you can ring up and try and get a sense of whether the player’s for sale or not.

“So the only way to provoke the conversation was to make an offer and we made an offer, which we think was at a fair level and they came back very clearly and said he was not for sale in this window to anybody, and he certainly wouldn't be on sale to Leeds United and there was no price that could pull him away.

“Once you get that kind of feedback, and you believe in that kind of feedback, then you have to move on. Very simply, Gustavo Hamer wasn't available for Leeds United in this window.”

Like Buendia and Hamer, Kinnear also mentioned Manchester City’s James McAtee and Liverpool’s Fabio Carvalho as names they had in mind for filling the Rutter void. However, for different reasons, they too could not be acquired.

This left Elland Road’s recruitment team back at the drawing board and, Kinnear revealed, unable to find any available targets who were significantly better than Aaronson in that role behind a striker.

“Brendan's attitude since he came back is first class, he's really hard working, he's really earnest, he's desperate to make it work, he's desperate to win the fans back over,” said Kinnear. “We had lots of conversations with the recruitment team, where we would analyse a player.

“There are hundreds of players, so the process is really, really robust. There is data on hundreds and hundreds of players, in every position. We've built a full scouting team since Victor [Orta]'s departure, rebuilt the scouting team up, so they're watching hours and hours of video footage to try and find the right players.

“They just couldn't find a player that was going to be significantly better than Brenden Aaronson. Brenden Aaronson is a United States international, he's a player we bought for over £20m, he's a player that could probably play in any of the top five leagues across Europe.

“We also watched him in pre-season and Daniel and the scouting staff and the coaching staff are excited about what he might deliver. If you look at his first three games, as he's working his way back into the team, he should have scored three goals and he scored two.

Agree with you Smurf - I like the interview and good to hear from him like this in detail.

There is lots going on with Elland Road too - more to come I'm sure, but I understand the hierarchy are now openly banding around a new capacity of 53,000 when all the work is done. It's West and North stand work.

Not saying the interview with the Square Ball was full of BS, it certainly contains some good stuff. But In general, I'm leaning more towards TC's point of view.

Likewise, I feel we left it very late with some of our transfers.

Saying that Bogle will prove to be as good or even better than Gray, even at RB is, to say the least, stretching it a bit.

And Rodon (happy we got him permanently) was already here, so he's not a replacement.

Felt like quite a lot of spin or excuses to justify/explain some of the signings and more importantly those that didn't materialize.

Of course some players are gonna be out of our reach for whatever reasons (a club should know what the chances are), but needing to go back to the drawing board rather points to not being prepared enough.

Hundreds and hundreds of players watched and not one available to improve on a nr. 10 position which we in truth have not had since Pablo.

And now, all of a sudden Aaronson is our nr. 10?

Ah well, all water under the bridge. Look forward to hear more about the timeline on improving and expanding ER. Would love 53.000 or more.

This shows only a little of what contract look like. There is nothing straight forward when a 3rd party is negotiating and they need to ensure they get their little cut.

Yes, I think by being prudent in this window, allows us an opportunity in January to make changes if so required, whilst keeping us in check with whatever financial rules are around.

8/10 for me given the financial restrictions. Obviously I also reserve the right to change my mind in hindsight :-)

Hamer played in PL last season..

…and he scored 6 goals. Well, maybe 25M is actually too much, and of course the prices of players are inflated and ridiculous. But that’s how it is, and our owners just seem rather stingy, that’s all. If Ramadzani, Schmidt, and our Japanese signing Tanaka all turn out to be brillant - inexpensive as they are - and take us up, I’ll gladly eat some humble pie! MOT

Most reports said we could get Hamer for 18 million which I think is a fair price,could've probably structured it as 15 plus 3m when we get promoted.

We lost a lot of talent and goals/assists and don't think we have replaced this.we could have signed Hamer & Ramazani and still had change left over from Rutter fee.

I hope I'm eating humble pie in a few months but looks like we did things on the cheap

Dan is the man. He knows loads about German football. I can only read and watch Utube videos

Depends how he is played.

For his country Japan, he is a box to box. For his German club he has played as a box to box, deep laying and a 8/10.

Think he is at his best when he works as the centre man of a 3 man central midfielder where he can just slide into spaces between lines. Those spaces can either be advanced between MF and CB or sliding into that pocket between FB, CB and MF.

Think a early days cross between Bakke & Bowyer.

Cheers Daniel

I expect Tanaka and Schmidt to be done deals by end of Friday

Sallai is still up in the air.

Hamer and Aarons look like the bus has left.

I don't know anything about Tanaka the player, but I'm sure the club will have done their homework. His transfer fee is certainly bargain basement so could be inspired.

Schmidt also good value for money, but full backs are generally pretty cheap but still looks good business.

I really don't think we need another winger or striker and we definitely don't need any more CBs, so nearly there.

I saw that and realised the same is true of Aarons, looks like we've had a couple of targets for some time and maybe now we can get them.

Tanaka comes with a big social following so would suit RB's marketing plans - he's got a release clause I understand we've triggered and he could be on the bench by Hull.....

I wonder about Gnonto. Everton have divebombed the start of the season - they may be back before Friday.

Solomon finally announced, although why the hold up will be interesting - he'd passed his medical on Saturday

Presumably if we signed Hamer he would be higher in the pecking queue than Aaronson as the first choice No 10?

Yeah - maybe Aaronson becomes a wide man so we have 4 options still (him, Gnonto, James and Ramazani)

Where does Solomon play then?

Sheff Utd overpaid for Hamer in 2023. FootballTransferManager rate him as no more than €15m which is pretty much what we offered - market price. From what I can see of this window, we aren’t going beyond market price for anybody, nor are we getting into bidding wars. Rowe is valued at €9m which is close to what we offered. Ljubicic Is rated at €5m, we offered £3.3m - again close enough. Bobby Clark rated at €1m, Liverpool were asking £6m. Jack Clarke worth €15m, Sunderland were looking £20m. It’s quite clear what our strategy has been. Looks like Ao Tanaka might be the next cab off the rank.

I’d love to see Max Aarons in, that would be the cream on cake. He’s valued at €16m though.

Clickbait has us linked with a late move for Danny Ings, so who knows. I remember there were a few raised eyebrows when we signed Dougie Friedman, but as it turned out was a shrewd move, maybe Ings is the man to help Joseph??

Seems like an odd link - I agree Ings might help Joseph develop, but how do we fit him into Farke's 4-2-3-1?

We'd have to play Ings at 10, which means Aaronson and potentially Hamer have no role?

On his day, Solomon can extremely effective but alas he has had alot of injuries recently and I a happy not to see him at our club due that reason.

I hear that spurs want more money rot the loan

On the other point of a lot of fans are not keen to see him at the club for my pennies worth diouf

I was in the crowd when he was nearly put into the front row he stood back looked with hatred and spat directly at us

We signed him I never clapped him or sang his name

Just ignored him

And if we get Solomon will be just the same

That's an odd thing to say mouseman, in fact - same to all of these posts about him.

Here's a man who hasn't done anything in the past v Leeds. If he signs then why not give him every support as with all new players? He's a Premier League standard Winger.

Are you deciding he's already done something wrong? Is it something particular to Manor Solomon? Care to enlighten us - would be good for you to explain the attitude in case anybody mistakenly thought it was to do with the man himself?

Wober has been a disaster for us - Not sure if it's best to cut our losses or leave him to rot till 2028 or whenever his deal ends. Do a Gnonto on him if he's annoying the squad.

Coops will go back to Hull - makes sense for all parties, but would be good if he had a non playing role on Saturday so he can say cheerio.

that's 2 in with 2 more to come

He’s only 23 and any goals will depend on how he’s deployed and the players around him. As it is, he’s scored six in 27 games for various Belgium youth sides which is better than onE in five games. One thing that’s not in doubt is his club pedigree - Anderlecht, Man Utd. He’s versatile, can be used as a playmaker, winger or up front. Looks a very shrewd acquisition.

I dont think DF wanted him for his goal output but his creativity

From what I have read he is very fast, a good dribbler and can take his man on, on both sides.

Everton were quoted £34 million to buy him in Jan 2023 which was his buyout clause and he will cost us £10million if all add ons met.

that's the first of 3 or 4 coming in I believe

We can never have enough Hannibals.

By golly TC is right, and he does know rocket science.

Could do the job

I don't doubt there's truth in this

If that is the case then it leaves us with 2 very interesting angles:

1. That sounds to me like the right way to do business

2. It's probably why we've not signed many players

So would we rather Leeds went back to dodgy contracts and sweeteners to get their man and then deal with the fallout later?

OR

Stick to an ethical stance and never sign anyone because it's the players and agents that have the power?

Welcome to the real world of football transfer business.

Maybe that's the reason why Skipp opted for Leicester and Rowe is no closer to joining us (and indeed any other player we are linked with)?

I firmly believe that the ethical stance is the correct way to conduct business, however it has to be weighed up at what cost and that football is a unique business model.

The 69er's must be aware that agents and players hold all the cards in this industry and making demands on how things are done in the end is not going to get us promoted. It is a sad fact but true.

We are 2 weeks away from the window closing, so unless the 69er's alter their stance, we may be in for a very rough ride (and potentially see DF walk out the door)!

I doubt that Dan. Bogle was know about for ages,

You cannot keep agents mouths shut as they look to ramp up interest in their players to get bigger fees for themselves and bigger wages for their players.

I can see your points 1 and 2 being part of the process but in a world of clickbait sites and social media points 3 and 4 can never be met.

There's interest from Southampton as well I think so could be tricky

Spuds apparently have a 40% sell on clause

I think the idea is sound, but the wrong player - he'll be headed back to Denmark to retire I would have thought and his wages right now would be far too high.

A Pablo type No10 makes a lot of sense though with our young front line

I don't mind too much if players come from Mancscum to us as it means they WANT to leave them for us.... hate players leaving us to go there though.

Think Eriksen just past it now on the playing side and we couldn't afford his wages.... I'd still take him though if figures were right.

You should spell that out to Hammond and Gretar Steinsson, get them wielding your rocket science magic.

You could give Boeing some advice on how to get their astronauts home as well.

I thought we looked like something was badly wrong last night - was word of this going round the camp?? Wober was almost deliberately dreadful like he is still leaving.

This is indeed the price of poor management, but the "hidden" release clauses are older than last season.

Leeds, Leeds are %^&^$ again as the old song goes 😡

That's nice.

Like Farke has said, compared to last season, at least this time around we're in a much better place. Undisturbed pre-season and all that.

Rest assured that the club will have numerous replacements lined up.

Just like they did when Jimmy left, even if they were taken a bit by surprise with that well hidden release clause.

Rumour has it that multiple carrier pigeons have already been dispatched.

Thought I saw a article that Humphrey is one of those tweener (can play either left back or CB and they do not know which he will end up in) and Ogbus is a CB but has the athletic ability and height to be more of a right back.

Yes we must indeed get it right.

Do you guys see Rowe as a starter then or a back up?

Would he even want to come to us if he is not a starter?

In terms of a Summerville replacement, would it be a out and out winger or would look for a inverted forward type or a attacking midfielder who can play wide?

Questions that all rely on Farke's thinking.

I think he would ultimately be a starter, although I think we could easily rotate Gnonto, James, Rowe and Aaronson (puts tin hat on as protection against TCs rocket science.).

Totally agree Smurf but it's not fkn rocket science....

He stated he want to go to Southampton to play for Martin I believe.

I believe so. Premier League short term vs Bigger club long term if you ask me.